The term "direct game" gets thrown around a lot here. But what exactly does it mean to "just go direct?"
Direct game is a very misunderstood concept here in our little community and its time for that to change. Its unfortunate but people seem to treat direct game (and "going direct") to be some sort of tactic to use on women. This is horribly false.
Another good example of how direct game is misunderstood is how people have canned direct openers. Once upon a time I used to guilty of this as well. I used to approach women and be authentic and tell them exactly what I felt about them in that moment. It was authentic and real, never planned. 100% authentic feelings. Then, in order to streamline the opening process I came up with a canned "direct" opener. When I did that, opening wasn't quite the success it used to be, that is, until I reverted back to being pure authentic. And thats what direct game truly is...
Being Authentic and 100% genuine in your intent, thoughts, and actions.
You can be doing direct game even if you open with a situational opener. Opening asking a chick for an opinion can be direct too so long as you actually want her opinion about something. (example: I was watching a debate on CNN at a coffee shop and I looked over and asked a chick which side of the argument she liked best)
Direct game isn't some tactic you use, direct game is about expressing your true desire and being shameless about it. Its about being authentic and real with both yourself and the woman.
I'll say it again...
Being direct is about expressing your true desires and being shameless about it.
Thats direct game. Its not a line, its not a tactic. Hope that helps to clear up some of the confusion and misconceptions.
Thursday, August 4, 2011
Thursday, July 14, 2011
Introduction to Pick Up - The Newbie Guide
Sense you're reading this I'm going to go ahead and assume your some what new to this whole "Pick up" thing. If you haven't discovered already, this "community" can be quite hectic and confusing. Because of this, it can be hard to know where and how to start and what to do. This is why I wrote this guide.
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The 80/20 Rule
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The 80/20 rule is VERY important when it comes to Mastering this area of your life. Something important you should know:
Only 20% of all men who enter this community and try this stuff, ever get good at it. That means the community has an 80% failure rate.
Although this sounds like a lot (and it is), don't be discouraged. If you follow this guide and commit, 100% to getting this area of your life handled... there is a good chance you will be in the 20% who master this.
Another reason the 80/20 rule is important is because it dictates who your time learning this should be spent. It breaks down like this:
- 20% of your time should be spent reading about Pick Up and all things related
- 80% of your time should be spent out "in field" meeting, flirting, and seducing women
A big reason why most guys never see any real results is because they have all this reversed. They spend 80% of their time reading about how to pick up, and only 20% of their time (sometimes less) actually meeting women.
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Pick Up Encyclopedia
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You don't have to be a walking Pick up encyclopedia to go and meet women. Most guys fall into the trap of "having to know what to do in every situation" before they go out and talk to women. DON'T DO THIS!
Its okay if you don't know very much, you will learn it along the way. Also, any thing you learn first hand in the field will stay with you better than reading it in a book. Don't make excuses... go out and meet women.
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The Newbie Mission
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"Tomorrow, or Saturday, or Sunday, groom and dress yourself real nice.
I'm not asking anyone to put on any suits, or ties, or jackets
(unless that is your comfortable style), but rather dress in your own
comfortable, natural way, wearing clean and at least reasonably pressed
clothes. Then drive to the nearest shopping mall/center and walk
around looking and damn near everything. As you're doing so, say "hi"
and give a smile to every woman who passes you by, and who is next to
you, and who is in front of you, or whatever. The smile doesn't have
to be this big cheesy grin, but whatever is your normal, comfortable
way of smiling. {Any kind of smile shows you're not depressed, nor
someone to be afraid of.}"
For more information on the newbie mission: [link]
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Ask Questions The Right Way
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As you go out and meet women, you will end up having many questions. This is normal. However, don't always be so quick to run to the forums and try go get your question answered. Spend a few days trying to answer your question for yourself by continuing to go out into the field and meet women.
Also, its important how you ask questions. Lets look at an example:
Guy 1: "I was talking to a girl last night and she was with her friends. One real bitchy one in particular wouldn't leave me and the girl I wanted alone. How coudl I have isolated her.
Guy 1: "I was wondering, what are some of the principals of isolation and the mechanics of it."
The difference in these questions relates a lot to this saying: "Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish and he will never go hungry."
Its more important to learn how something works than just how to do that something is a very specific situation.
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Community Drama
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There is a lot of community drama and if you get caught up in it you will waste a lot of time that could be spent on getting good at this. Avoid community drama.
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Winging
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It's a great idea to find others to go out with who also have an interest in this. It helps keep you motivated and gives your some one to help you when you need it.
A lot of guys get way to dependent on having a wing and in the long run, this hurts their game. They don't know how to isolate a girl without having a wing man distract the other girls, and handle a variety of other situations.
After you start getting some success you need to go out solo every so often and learn how to handle all situations that arise YOURSELF. It can be tricky but you will be much better off when you get good at it.
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Going Out
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Its important that your actually going out often enough to get good at this. One or two nights a week is better than nothing but you wont progress very fast. Three to five nights a week are much better in the beginning.
Also, doing a 30 day challenge every now and then isn't a bad idea either!
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30 Day Challenge
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A 30 day challenge is much like it sounds; go out for 30 days/nights in a row with no exceptions. During these 30 days you want to be pushing it harder than you ever have before. This will improve your game more than you would believe.
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Bootcamps/Personal Training
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After six months in and constantly going out and meeting a ton of women you will no doubt realize what major sticking points you have. At this point its up to you if you want to take a bootcamp or any other kind of personal training.
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Stay Positive
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Above all else, stay positive. Your going to be going on a roller coaster of emotions but stick with it because in the end, its worth it.
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The 80/20 Rule
-------------------------
The 80/20 rule is VERY important when it comes to Mastering this area of your life. Something important you should know:
Only 20% of all men who enter this community and try this stuff, ever get good at it. That means the community has an 80% failure rate.
Although this sounds like a lot (and it is), don't be discouraged. If you follow this guide and commit, 100% to getting this area of your life handled... there is a good chance you will be in the 20% who master this.
Another reason the 80/20 rule is important is because it dictates who your time learning this should be spent. It breaks down like this:
- 20% of your time should be spent reading about Pick Up and all things related
- 80% of your time should be spent out "in field" meeting, flirting, and seducing women
A big reason why most guys never see any real results is because they have all this reversed. They spend 80% of their time reading about how to pick up, and only 20% of their time (sometimes less) actually meeting women.
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Pick Up Encyclopedia
-------------------------
You don't have to be a walking Pick up encyclopedia to go and meet women. Most guys fall into the trap of "having to know what to do in every situation" before they go out and talk to women. DON'T DO THIS!
Its okay if you don't know very much, you will learn it along the way. Also, any thing you learn first hand in the field will stay with you better than reading it in a book. Don't make excuses... go out and meet women.
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The Newbie Mission
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"Tomorrow, or Saturday, or Sunday, groom and dress yourself real nice.
I'm not asking anyone to put on any suits, or ties, or jackets
(unless that is your comfortable style), but rather dress in your own
comfortable, natural way, wearing clean and at least reasonably pressed
clothes. Then drive to the nearest shopping mall/center and walk
around looking and damn near everything. As you're doing so, say "hi"
and give a smile to every woman who passes you by, and who is next to
you, and who is in front of you, or whatever. The smile doesn't have
to be this big cheesy grin, but whatever is your normal, comfortable
way of smiling. {Any kind of smile shows you're not depressed, nor
someone to be afraid of.}"
For more information on the newbie mission: [link]
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Ask Questions The Right Way
----------------------------------
As you go out and meet women, you will end up having many questions. This is normal. However, don't always be so quick to run to the forums and try go get your question answered. Spend a few days trying to answer your question for yourself by continuing to go out into the field and meet women.
Also, its important how you ask questions. Lets look at an example:
Guy 1: "I was talking to a girl last night and she was with her friends. One real bitchy one in particular wouldn't leave me and the girl I wanted alone. How coudl I have isolated her.
Guy 1: "I was wondering, what are some of the principals of isolation and the mechanics of it."
The difference in these questions relates a lot to this saying: "Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish and he will never go hungry."
Its more important to learn how something works than just how to do that something is a very specific situation.
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Community Drama
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There is a lot of community drama and if you get caught up in it you will waste a lot of time that could be spent on getting good at this. Avoid community drama.
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Winging
-------------------------
It's a great idea to find others to go out with who also have an interest in this. It helps keep you motivated and gives your some one to help you when you need it.
A lot of guys get way to dependent on having a wing and in the long run, this hurts their game. They don't know how to isolate a girl without having a wing man distract the other girls, and handle a variety of other situations.
After you start getting some success you need to go out solo every so often and learn how to handle all situations that arise YOURSELF. It can be tricky but you will be much better off when you get good at it.
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Going Out
-------------------------
Its important that your actually going out often enough to get good at this. One or two nights a week is better than nothing but you wont progress very fast. Three to five nights a week are much better in the beginning.
Also, doing a 30 day challenge every now and then isn't a bad idea either!
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30 Day Challenge
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A 30 day challenge is much like it sounds; go out for 30 days/nights in a row with no exceptions. During these 30 days you want to be pushing it harder than you ever have before. This will improve your game more than you would believe.
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Bootcamps/Personal Training
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After six months in and constantly going out and meeting a ton of women you will no doubt realize what major sticking points you have. At this point its up to you if you want to take a bootcamp or any other kind of personal training.
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Stay Positive
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Above all else, stay positive. Your going to be going on a roller coaster of emotions but stick with it because in the end, its worth it.
Truth about flaking
It seems every time someone on here ask about why he got flaked on for a date, or the girl never called him back/answered her phone/flaked for whatever reason, a bunch of people respond by saying
"NOT ENOUGH COMFORT BUILT!!!!"
I believe this whole "flake = lack of comfort" myth originally came from Mystery Method but I'm not totally sure.
While I admit that comfort can play a small part in it, the biggest reason for a chick flaking on you is mainly due to lack of interest/attraction towards you.
"NOT ENOUGH COMFORT BUILT!!!!"
I believe this whole "flake = lack of comfort" myth originally came from Mystery Method but I'm not totally sure.
While I admit that comfort can play a small part in it, the biggest reason for a chick flaking on you is mainly due to lack of interest/attraction towards you.
Stop trying to be perfect
I all the time see guys trying to make their interactions with women "perfect" and "mistake free." This is actually a pretty bad goal to strive for.
You will never have a "perfect/mistake free" interaction and striving to do so will only put you inside of your head and cause you to worry.
The "game" is played in damage control.
Making mistakes and recovering from them really only helps you so long as you don't let those mistakes bother you.
Making bold moves is attractive but sometimes the bold movies will backfire. Recovering from this (damage control) is also attractive.
Stop worrying about doing everything perfect, it will never happen. Remember, the game is played in Damage Control
Interact, have fun, fuck up, recover and fuck the girl.
You will never have a "perfect/mistake free" interaction and striving to do so will only put you inside of your head and cause you to worry.
The "game" is played in damage control.
Making mistakes and recovering from them really only helps you so long as you don't let those mistakes bother you.
Making bold moves is attractive but sometimes the bold movies will backfire. Recovering from this (damage control) is also attractive.
Stop worrying about doing everything perfect, it will never happen. Remember, the game is played in Damage Control
Interact, have fun, fuck up, recover and fuck the girl.
Saturday, February 26, 2011
Hey newbie! Get laid THIS week learning only ONE thing!
So your new to the "community" well welcome and congrats on finding out about this stuff. I'm sure by now you've been constructing DHV stories, working on negs, and learning cool openers. Well guess what, I got something to share with you... even if you only have a minute before you have to get back to your friends.
If you want to get laid, within the next 7 days by a woman you find super hot you only need to learn one thing.
The ONE thing I'm about to tell you about will allow you to get laid in the next 7 days as long as you commit to going out those 7 days.
Sexual Escalation.
90% of the game is sexual escalation yet ironically its talked about some of the least.
I'm not saying you shouldn't learn everything else but what I am saying is that for the next 7 days, focus ONLY on sexual escalation.
For the next 7 days, go out and only focus on sexual escalation. Don't worry about how to open (just do it), manipulating status, time bridging, any of that stuff. Learn all other game theory next week. This week is sexual escalation only.
Added benefits
Because your new to this and have bad calibration skills you will get blown out a lot while doing this. However, if you just focus on sexual escalation and keep escalating and always moving the interaction forward, you will get laid.
Because you will have to approach lots of women, this will rid you of your approach anxiety
You will learn how important sexual escalation is
You will improve your calibration skills.
By doing this, you will also realize how wrong some of the "community" beliefs are towards sexual escalation.
And more than likely, you will get laid IF and ONLY IF you push yourself.
Lets recap:
Step 1) Learn sexual escalation
Step 2) Go out and sexually escalate on the women you find attractive
Step 3) Get blown a lot...finally reach indifference threshold. Continue approaching and escalating
Step 4) Get laid.
Again, don;t worry about creating comfort first, manipulating value, any of that stuff. Just sexual escalate, you will be pleasantly surprised!
I should note here: This is best done at clubs, bars, and parties.
Have fun!
P.S. The absolute BEST way to get good at sexual escalation is with phone coaching with a master pick up artist! Click here for phone coaching!
If you want to get laid, within the next 7 days by a woman you find super hot you only need to learn one thing.
The ONE thing I'm about to tell you about will allow you to get laid in the next 7 days as long as you commit to going out those 7 days.
Sexual Escalation.
90% of the game is sexual escalation yet ironically its talked about some of the least.
I'm not saying you shouldn't learn everything else but what I am saying is that for the next 7 days, focus ONLY on sexual escalation.
For the next 7 days, go out and only focus on sexual escalation. Don't worry about how to open (just do it), manipulating status, time bridging, any of that stuff. Learn all other game theory next week. This week is sexual escalation only.
Added benefits
Because your new to this and have bad calibration skills you will get blown out a lot while doing this. However, if you just focus on sexual escalation and keep escalating and always moving the interaction forward, you will get laid.
Because you will have to approach lots of women, this will rid you of your approach anxiety
You will learn how important sexual escalation is
You will improve your calibration skills.
By doing this, you will also realize how wrong some of the "community" beliefs are towards sexual escalation.
And more than likely, you will get laid IF and ONLY IF you push yourself.
Lets recap:
Step 1) Learn sexual escalation
Step 2) Go out and sexually escalate on the women you find attractive
Step 3) Get blown a lot...finally reach indifference threshold. Continue approaching and escalating
Step 4) Get laid.
Again, don;t worry about creating comfort first, manipulating value, any of that stuff. Just sexual escalate, you will be pleasantly surprised!
I should note here: This is best done at clubs, bars, and parties.
Have fun!
P.S. The absolute BEST way to get good at sexual escalation is with phone coaching with a master pick up artist! Click here for phone coaching!
15 Common Mistakes!
The following is a list of common mistakes new guys make all the time.
1) Worrying about your opener. The opener is the least important part of the interaction yet people worry about it the most. Stop trying to construct the "perfect" opener. Most of the time a simple "hi!" will work better than any "amazing" opener you think you have. What you open with isn't really an issue so don't make it one.
2) Looking for IOIs. If your stuck inside your head looking for indicators that shes interested in you, you wont be fully present in the moment and enjoying your time with her as much as you should be. Don't look for indicators that she is interested in you, assume attraction.
3) Lack of escalation. This ties into #2. Most of the new guys are afraid to escalate so they wait for signs that shes interested. Don't wait! Start escalating right from the beginning. Even if shes not interested, your escalation may very well change her mind and make her interested.
4) Not Leading. Are you leading her or is she leading you? Leading includes leading her physically and emotionally. Lead the conversation to where you want it to go, lead her feelings and thoughts to where you want them to be, lead her to your bedroom. Leading is a massive topic worthy of its own article and i'll be writing up one soon.
5) Not going out. I meant to put this first because its a biggie! Don't sit inside all day and dream of going out...go out! No excuses.
6) Reading to much theory. You will never learn it all. Go out and stop trying to be perfect. Don't overload yourself with to much information.
7) Not being sexual enough. Most guys spend way to much time trying to be interesting/charming/valuable and not enough time creating a sexual vibe between them. Read Chief's post on the subject.
8) Leaving too soon. Most guys eject from a "set" waaay to soon. The first sign of resistance and they walk away. Don't be that guy. "Burn your sets to the ground." - Jeffy. Its a silly quite but the point it makes is massive. If the don't like you, they are free to go away or tell you to do so. Don't eject at the first sign of trouble or resistance.
9) Playing it safe. Most guys play not to loose instead of playing to win. A good example of this is not escalating. By not escalating they may not get blown out (right away) but they arn't going to close either. Play to win and take some risk!
10) Seeking validation. A lot of guys go out and seek validation, both from their male friends and the women they interact with. Stop trying to impress people, stop trying to get outside validation. Express yourself and your intent, don't try to impress others for the validation.
11) Little girl voice. Seriously, SPEAK UP! Most guys speak with a weak voice. Next time your in a club just remember, SPEAK UP!
12) Momentum. Most guys stall around when they get to the club. they go to the bar, then the bathroom, then to check bakc in with their friends, then check out the place for women. Instead of doing all that, open the first person you see. Man, woman, tranny...doesn't matter. Open them and be social! You don't have to try and pick them up. The goal is to get in a social mood.
13) Failure to have fun. Fun before anything else. If your not having fun, your doing something wrong. Have fun and don't take things so seriously.
14) Over Gaming. This is actually a huge problem. A lot of the time the woman will ready to be pulled but instead you turn her off by over gaming her.
15) Not being prepared. What do I mean? Having a condom! I'm always surprised at how many guys go out looking to get laid but don't bring a condom. Bring a couple but don't be the douche bag thay pulls out a whole roll of condoms infront of the girl. Stuff one or two in your pocket an be on your way.
There are plenty more but these are the common ones. If you recognize yourself making any of these take action to correct them.
1) Worrying about your opener. The opener is the least important part of the interaction yet people worry about it the most. Stop trying to construct the "perfect" opener. Most of the time a simple "hi!" will work better than any "amazing" opener you think you have. What you open with isn't really an issue so don't make it one.
2) Looking for IOIs. If your stuck inside your head looking for indicators that shes interested in you, you wont be fully present in the moment and enjoying your time with her as much as you should be. Don't look for indicators that she is interested in you, assume attraction.
3) Lack of escalation. This ties into #2. Most of the new guys are afraid to escalate so they wait for signs that shes interested. Don't wait! Start escalating right from the beginning. Even if shes not interested, your escalation may very well change her mind and make her interested.
4) Not Leading. Are you leading her or is she leading you? Leading includes leading her physically and emotionally. Lead the conversation to where you want it to go, lead her feelings and thoughts to where you want them to be, lead her to your bedroom. Leading is a massive topic worthy of its own article and i'll be writing up one soon.
5) Not going out. I meant to put this first because its a biggie! Don't sit inside all day and dream of going out...go out! No excuses.
6) Reading to much theory. You will never learn it all. Go out and stop trying to be perfect. Don't overload yourself with to much information.
7) Not being sexual enough. Most guys spend way to much time trying to be interesting/charming/valuable and not enough time creating a sexual vibe between them. Read Chief's post on the subject.
8) Leaving too soon. Most guys eject from a "set" waaay to soon. The first sign of resistance and they walk away. Don't be that guy. "Burn your sets to the ground." - Jeffy. Its a silly quite but the point it makes is massive. If the don't like you, they are free to go away or tell you to do so. Don't eject at the first sign of trouble or resistance.
9) Playing it safe. Most guys play not to loose instead of playing to win. A good example of this is not escalating. By not escalating they may not get blown out (right away) but they arn't going to close either. Play to win and take some risk!
10) Seeking validation. A lot of guys go out and seek validation, both from their male friends and the women they interact with. Stop trying to impress people, stop trying to get outside validation. Express yourself and your intent, don't try to impress others for the validation.
11) Little girl voice. Seriously, SPEAK UP! Most guys speak with a weak voice. Next time your in a club just remember, SPEAK UP!
12) Momentum. Most guys stall around when they get to the club. they go to the bar, then the bathroom, then to check bakc in with their friends, then check out the place for women. Instead of doing all that, open the first person you see. Man, woman, tranny...doesn't matter. Open them and be social! You don't have to try and pick them up. The goal is to get in a social mood.
13) Failure to have fun. Fun before anything else. If your not having fun, your doing something wrong. Have fun and don't take things so seriously.
14) Over Gaming. This is actually a huge problem. A lot of the time the woman will ready to be pulled but instead you turn her off by over gaming her.
15) Not being prepared. What do I mean? Having a condom! I'm always surprised at how many guys go out looking to get laid but don't bring a condom. Bring a couple but don't be the douche bag thay pulls out a whole roll of condoms infront of the girl. Stuff one or two in your pocket an be on your way.
There are plenty more but these are the common ones. If you recognize yourself making any of these take action to correct them.
Guide To Same Night Lays
----- Introduction -----
The following is a brief outline of the method I use to get same night lays. I used to hate phone and text game (still do somewhat) and I never really had time for day 2's so I pretty much had to learn how to get a woman back home on the same night.
In the beginning I tried a lot, learned a lot, but didn't fuck a lot. Finally after much experimentation, and some guidance from others more experienced than myself, I came up with a working method. Over time I have refined this method into the brief summary of it I will detail below.
I hope this method helps you but please remember, this is my method that I have worked out for myself. Some of the things here may not work for you just because it worked for me. Go out, experiment, see what works for you and improve on it so that it will work even better for you. Go out, have fun, and happy fucking.
----- Inner Game of SNLs -----
I've met a good number of men who believe that pulling women on the first night is actually bad game. Thats to much mystery method clouding their head.
The 7 Hour Rule
Many men also believe in the 7 hour rule. The 7 hour rule basically states that on average, it takes 7 hours from the time you meet a women until the time you can sleep with her. Because I aim to keep this post short I wont go into details and i'll just simply state the facts: the 7 hour rule is a load of horse shit.
Her Secret Garden
Anyone who has been on the forum for a while has probably figured out that women love sex, much more so than most guys can possibly comprehend. Its a woman's fantasy to get whisked away by a sexy stranger and then to get ravished by him. A SNL is basically filling that fantasy for her.
Of course, she will give some token resistance (shit test) but see it for what it really is, just some silly test. She wants to be whisked away and fucked.... always remember that.
----- Being Prepared -----
Condoms
How many times have you went to the club and not had a condom or two with you? I'm willing to bet more than a few times. Don't rely on her to have condoms! bring condoms and give yourself no excuse to not pull her home that night.
Transportation
This ties into Logistics which is the next section but it also deals with being prepared. How are you getting her home? Did you come with friends? if so, what about them? have all of this figured out before hand.
----- Logistics -----
Same Night Lays are largely about logistics. You can be in the club, approach a smoking hot turbo, have a great interaction with her, then go for the pull only to realize that it cant happen because of logistics. This is the reason you have to screen women quickly for logistics if your looking for a same night lay.
Screening
Soon after you open you should begin to find out the following:
* Who she came here with
* What shes doing later (she will change her plans if she likes you enough)
* Who she came with
Obviously you don't want to enter interview mode and rattle off those question one by one. Work them into the conversation naturally. If her answers arnt conductive to a Same Night Lay then move on and approach another woman.
Again, if your looking to get laid that night, screen women as soon as possible. Don't waste your time having a 3 hour long interaction and then find out she cant be pulled home that night.
----- Sexual Escalation -----
Sexual escalation is worthy of a whole nother thread itself. Entire books have been written on this subject alone. For that reason I'm going to keep this section somewhat short and just go over the bare basics. If you want a more in-depth and detailed guide to sexual escalation, I fully recommend phone coaching.
Phone coaching is a GREAT way to learn everything you need to know, straight from the mouth of a MPUA himself. Don't sell yourself short, you deserve the best coaching. Click here for phone coaching!
The Basics
Be physical! Most men simply arn't physical enough. And no matter how physical you think you are, chances are you could afford to be MORE physical. Don't wait to get physical, get physical right off the bat. Open her with a high five, then give her a spin. Hold on to her hand while you talk. Escalate the vibe.
Escalating The Vibe
This is one major way of turning things sexual. Get close, have sexual eye contact, talk slow and introduce pauses. Feel sexual (sexual state) and don't be afraid to show it. Know your intent and be inline with it!
Don't do things that decrease the sexual tension. Be comfortable with the silence. It will only be awkward if you feel its awkward. She feels what you feel, thats the golden rule of natural game.
Sexual Frames
Sexual framing is very important when it comes to Same Night Lays. For the purpose of this post, i'll keep the sexual framing stuff simple. Simple but powerful.
I use a concept of "Behavior Shaping" to introduce sexual frames. The best way to show this is by examples.
"You seem really adventurous. Like the kind of girl who really goes for what she wants and is not afraid to let her self have fun."
This does a lot of good things. For one, you set expectations of her. As long as she does feel something for you she going to want to now live up to those expectations. For example, you framed her as being adventurous. No girl wants to seem unadventurous. She will now do things to live up to that. the same goes for "being fun" and "going for what she wants." Now that she knows what you like, and how you expect her to act, she will align herself with those roles.
----- Compliance -----
It helps to make a girl much more compliant to your request. The benefits of having a compliant, horny, chick should be obvious. In order to make her compliant, start out by having her carry out small request. Example: holding your drink. Thats a small, safe request that most any girl will do. Then over time amp it up and make your request much bigger. She will get used to doing what you say and this makes the extraction to your place much easier.
In his Outer Game Guide, Chief has wrote a great post on the Compliance Ladder. Instead of reinventing the wheel, I'm simply going to go tell you to read his post on compliance.
----- Closing -----
Over Gaming
Many guys fall victim to the curse over over gaming. Many time the chick will be ready to go home with the guy but he is still convinced he needs to do more gaming. Create more attraction, more social proof, more value, more comfort, more something. Their so worried about that, they don't recognize her giving off the sings of being ready to go home. Always be shooting for the close.
Club Extractions
If the girl is horny enough, or comfortable enough with her sexuality, often times a simple "lets go" following by you taking her hand and leading her out of the club will work. Often times, however, she will need an excuse to go home with you so that she doesn't feel like a slut. This is simple enough. Any of the old classic lines will work.
"Lets go back to my place, I have to show you something cool."
"There is a great food joint, lets go check it out." (of course, on the way stop at your house first, invite her in claiming you need to get something. Once inside, its on.)
There are litlery a million excuses you can use. Experiment and find one that works well for you. Just remember, LEAD don't ask. Never ask "would you like to go back to my place." just take her hand and start going. "Lets go check out this food joint." As long as you have done the other stuff right, she will willingly go along. Extractions is as simple as that. Often times by doing all of this, you wont even get any LMR once shes back to your place.
----- Conclusion -----
In a nutshell, that is the very basics of my same night lay system. I do plan on expanding on some of these points and make them much more detailed in future post. Alright guys, time for you to get out there and put all of this into action. Peace.
The following is a brief outline of the method I use to get same night lays. I used to hate phone and text game (still do somewhat) and I never really had time for day 2's so I pretty much had to learn how to get a woman back home on the same night.
In the beginning I tried a lot, learned a lot, but didn't fuck a lot. Finally after much experimentation, and some guidance from others more experienced than myself, I came up with a working method. Over time I have refined this method into the brief summary of it I will detail below.
I hope this method helps you but please remember, this is my method that I have worked out for myself. Some of the things here may not work for you just because it worked for me. Go out, experiment, see what works for you and improve on it so that it will work even better for you. Go out, have fun, and happy fucking.
----- Inner Game of SNLs -----
I've met a good number of men who believe that pulling women on the first night is actually bad game. Thats to much mystery method clouding their head.
The 7 Hour Rule
Many men also believe in the 7 hour rule. The 7 hour rule basically states that on average, it takes 7 hours from the time you meet a women until the time you can sleep with her. Because I aim to keep this post short I wont go into details and i'll just simply state the facts: the 7 hour rule is a load of horse shit.
Her Secret Garden
Anyone who has been on the forum for a while has probably figured out that women love sex, much more so than most guys can possibly comprehend. Its a woman's fantasy to get whisked away by a sexy stranger and then to get ravished by him. A SNL is basically filling that fantasy for her.
Of course, she will give some token resistance (shit test) but see it for what it really is, just some silly test. She wants to be whisked away and fucked.... always remember that.
----- Being Prepared -----
Condoms
How many times have you went to the club and not had a condom or two with you? I'm willing to bet more than a few times. Don't rely on her to have condoms! bring condoms and give yourself no excuse to not pull her home that night.
Transportation
This ties into Logistics which is the next section but it also deals with being prepared. How are you getting her home? Did you come with friends? if so, what about them? have all of this figured out before hand.
----- Logistics -----
Same Night Lays are largely about logistics. You can be in the club, approach a smoking hot turbo, have a great interaction with her, then go for the pull only to realize that it cant happen because of logistics. This is the reason you have to screen women quickly for logistics if your looking for a same night lay.
Screening
Soon after you open you should begin to find out the following:
* Who she came here with
* What shes doing later (she will change her plans if she likes you enough)
* Who she came with
Obviously you don't want to enter interview mode and rattle off those question one by one. Work them into the conversation naturally. If her answers arnt conductive to a Same Night Lay then move on and approach another woman.
Again, if your looking to get laid that night, screen women as soon as possible. Don't waste your time having a 3 hour long interaction and then find out she cant be pulled home that night.
----- Sexual Escalation -----
Sexual escalation is worthy of a whole nother thread itself. Entire books have been written on this subject alone. For that reason I'm going to keep this section somewhat short and just go over the bare basics. If you want a more in-depth and detailed guide to sexual escalation, I fully recommend phone coaching.
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The Basics
Be physical! Most men simply arn't physical enough. And no matter how physical you think you are, chances are you could afford to be MORE physical. Don't wait to get physical, get physical right off the bat. Open her with a high five, then give her a spin. Hold on to her hand while you talk. Escalate the vibe.
Escalating The Vibe
This is one major way of turning things sexual. Get close, have sexual eye contact, talk slow and introduce pauses. Feel sexual (sexual state) and don't be afraid to show it. Know your intent and be inline with it!
Don't do things that decrease the sexual tension. Be comfortable with the silence. It will only be awkward if you feel its awkward. She feels what you feel, thats the golden rule of natural game.
Sexual Frames
Sexual framing is very important when it comes to Same Night Lays. For the purpose of this post, i'll keep the sexual framing stuff simple. Simple but powerful.
I use a concept of "Behavior Shaping" to introduce sexual frames. The best way to show this is by examples.
"You seem really adventurous. Like the kind of girl who really goes for what she wants and is not afraid to let her self have fun."
This does a lot of good things. For one, you set expectations of her. As long as she does feel something for you she going to want to now live up to those expectations. For example, you framed her as being adventurous. No girl wants to seem unadventurous. She will now do things to live up to that. the same goes for "being fun" and "going for what she wants." Now that she knows what you like, and how you expect her to act, she will align herself with those roles.
----- Compliance -----
It helps to make a girl much more compliant to your request. The benefits of having a compliant, horny, chick should be obvious. In order to make her compliant, start out by having her carry out small request. Example: holding your drink. Thats a small, safe request that most any girl will do. Then over time amp it up and make your request much bigger. She will get used to doing what you say and this makes the extraction to your place much easier.
In his Outer Game Guide, Chief has wrote a great post on the Compliance Ladder. Instead of reinventing the wheel, I'm simply going to go tell you to read his post on compliance.
----- Closing -----
Over Gaming
Many guys fall victim to the curse over over gaming. Many time the chick will be ready to go home with the guy but he is still convinced he needs to do more gaming. Create more attraction, more social proof, more value, more comfort, more something. Their so worried about that, they don't recognize her giving off the sings of being ready to go home. Always be shooting for the close.
Club Extractions
If the girl is horny enough, or comfortable enough with her sexuality, often times a simple "lets go" following by you taking her hand and leading her out of the club will work. Often times, however, she will need an excuse to go home with you so that she doesn't feel like a slut. This is simple enough. Any of the old classic lines will work.
"Lets go back to my place, I have to show you something cool."
"There is a great food joint, lets go check it out." (of course, on the way stop at your house first, invite her in claiming you need to get something. Once inside, its on.)
There are litlery a million excuses you can use. Experiment and find one that works well for you. Just remember, LEAD don't ask. Never ask "would you like to go back to my place." just take her hand and start going. "Lets go check out this food joint." As long as you have done the other stuff right, she will willingly go along. Extractions is as simple as that. Often times by doing all of this, you wont even get any LMR once shes back to your place.
----- Conclusion -----
In a nutshell, that is the very basics of my same night lay system. I do plan on expanding on some of these points and make them much more detailed in future post. Alright guys, time for you to get out there and put all of this into action. Peace.
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